The Judge Rotenberg Education Center a private behavior modification school in Canton, MA routinely shocks their pupils. Some children have been shocked thousands of times a day, and several children have died at the school. Matthew Israel, the schools director is paid $400,000 a year to shock children. Children have shock apparatuses attached to them and sometimes they misfire.
In June 2006 the New York State Education Department went in and observed the school. They compiled a 26 page report of evidence that damned the school.
*Staff shock kids for “nagging, swearing, and failing to maintain a neat appearance” and once threatened to shock a girl who sneezed and then asked for a tissue.
* Some students must “earn” meals by not displaying certain behaviors. Otherwise they are “made to throw a predetermined caloric portion of their food into the garbage.”
* When students enter and leave the school each day, “almost all” are wearing some type of restraints, such as handcuffs or leg shackles.
* “Students may be restrained”–on a four-point restraint board or chair–”for extensive periods of time (e.g. hours or intermittently for days).”
* Some students are shocked while strapped to the restraint board.
* A “majority” of employees “serving as classroom teachers” are “not certified teachers.”
* Rotenberg’s marketing reps bestow presents on prospective families–”e.g. a gift bag for the family, basketball for the student.”
* Although the center has described its shock device as “approved” by the fda in its promotional materials, it “has not been approved.”
* The facility collects “comprehensive data” on behaviors it seeks to eliminate, but “there was no evidence of the collection of data on replacement or positive behaviors.”
* The facility makes no assessment of the “possible collateral effects of punishment such as depression, anxiety, and/or social withdrawal.”
I am disgusted with what this “school”, how it can even call itself such, can do this. I plan on contacting the Attorney General of MA and reporting this as child abuse. How can this school continue to operate? This is illegal on so many grounds and it is horrible. I cannot imagine being shocked at school. What’s worse is that Dr. Israel is protected, as long as he gains court approval to hook up each kid to these torture devices. New York State filed a lawsuit seeking the removal of these devices and possible closure of the school, school parents counter-sued and the case will go to trial in 2008. Not a moment too soon for these poor, poor kids.
True Position is a leading edge company offering location based services. Location based services are services that we use daily, such as E911, local business searching and tracking of your kids. I personally like the tracking of kids. With my current cell phone carrier it costs almost $20 per month for this feature now. True Position makes much more affordable to have this service provided to the cell phone carrier. True Position currently works with AT&T wireless and T-Mobile to provide solutions. I just wish they would make the leap over to Verizon. However, I doubt that will happen soon due to the CDMA/SIM debacle. True Position has some really cool products though, hope I can use them very soon!
I found this really cool list of Urban Abandoments. Detroit is #2, which makes sense. They have dilapidated buildings next to their baseball park it is a very strange city. Anyways check out the rest of the list.
You would wonder what exactly the danger is to children on the other side of that wall…hmm…
If you go to New Zealand and your driving near a cliff you may just be required to keep a parachute with you.
Now if you want to see something amazing, go to New York. There, they will rescue raccoons. I am not sure what they do with them afterwards but that really is none of my concern. Pretty funny picture though.
This would be the size of wikipedia if it were put into books. Funny, I thought it would be much much bigger.
And finally..like we don’t have even negative ideas in our world. We have a billboard that declares out kids ugly!
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A United Kingdom teenager thought he could get away with driving up to speeds of 140 MPH. He almost did until the posted a video of himself doing this on Youtube. The Ford Escort he was driving was filmed on the A76. The 19 year old’s name was not released due to ongoing investigation.
The police call him stupid! Well, that is true. However, his stunt will make more kids want to do it. I can’t believe this hilarious idiot. On a sad note, I have not been able to find the video on Youtube. However, I bet it got quite a few hits. It may have been removed, I have not been able to verify with Youtube on that fact yet.
AT&T customers will no longer be able to call for the time of day after Sept. 19. Nevada’s time system is living on borrowed time as well. AT&T has said they do not plan to replace the service in California which has already been discontinued in 48 other states. The only other remaining is Nevada. AT&T has said that doing away with the old time system will allow them to create 300,000 new phone numbers. AT&T’s reasoning behind removing the time system from service is that people have so many ways of finding the time now that calling a phone number is obsolete. They can just look at their cell phones or computers for the time.
What is really sad about this article is that some woman actually have made recordings and they are still alive. They are quite saddened to hear that their voice will be laid to rest. I wish these ladies the best of luck and hope that all you people out west do all right without this service.
Tucker Carlson, a popular television host on MSNBC has said that having sex in men’s rooms is outrageous. He also admitted that he has been bothered in the mens room. Carlson talked about a time in high school where he actually roughed up the person who did this to him.
That’s great. Now, we have to worry about men harrassing other men. This could be just about anyone. This is a sick and disturbing though. I am happy for Tucker as he is a great reporter and well…thats about it. I just think this whole bathroom sex thing is disgusting and cannot believe people are actually doing it. If you people want to have sex, go get a civil union, and for god sakes be private about asking.
I have had multiple occasions in the past where I have had to help out people with finding a projector. More than often, it is difficult to find one. However, Projector 123 provides Charleston West Virginia Projector Rental. They also provide projector rental to several other cities and are expanding. You recieve the projector via FedEx and a box comes with it, prepaid to send the projector back once you are finished with it.
Just think you could have a slide show at your wedding, graduation party, labor day bash or some other big event. So if you entertain a lot of friends and family why not rent a projector for your next party and mix things up a little bit.
The German underwear maker Sloggi has been slapped down in Sweden after trying to find the world’s most beautiful butt. “Alas, our goal of finding the most beautiful backsides has been misunderstood by certain sections of the media” in Sweden, the German firm said in a statement Tuesday. Sloggi has invited men and women to send pictures of themselves to the company so they may put them on the internet so the greater people can choose the world’s most beautiful butt.
…and you wonder if this contest was going to be coming to the United States! I am glad that this company has realized that they may encounter some problems, especially outside of the “free love” idealism of Europe. The rest of the world is very self concious and I could see a lot of problems coming to light with this. Better luck next time Sloggi.
…Manhattan! That’s right quite a few residents of the New York burrogh are receiving funds form the department of Agriculture for “farming”. The farm bill passed by the House will continue giving these millionaires farming money for many years. However, the cap that they can receive per year is 1 million dollars. President Bush has proposed closing many of the loopholes and limiting the money to 200,000 a year. However, this has yet to be put into place.
Amazing isn’t it! You can get money, money meant for hard working honest people for doing nothing at all. Now if that isn’t the most bizzare thing you have ever heard please smack me now! I cannot believe we are giving away millions to people who live in affluent condos! Come on New York, get a life!
Don’t you just love getting into all the different seasons. You could have one tree that does it all for you!
I need more horns, I am running out of them. After all this sheep only has six!
This supercharged Delorean was a picture I actually took. This was on the 101 in Phoenix, AZ this summer and boy how that highway has changed in just a few years. Now, you can’t drag race in Scottsdale, bummer!
A little bit of something cute for all the woman in the audience.
A nine year old boy got his testicle stuck in a pipe after exiting a bath officials said. The boy had to endure immense pain for over 30 minutes before the emergency crews were able to get him to a hospital so that doctors could operate.
Wow, this reminds me of that story where the teenager in the United Kingdom had an incident with bicycle handlebars and his groin. Long story there, feel free to search for it if interested. I hope this young boy does fine, as it appears in the article that all ended well. I just think this is plain bizzare and halirious!
I have been surfing around lately. Like I ever stop surfing around! I was looking for something to post about and found this cool little website called www.SpoofCard.com. They provide a secret calling service, much like you could do with Skype. This enables people who work from home, say like a teacher, or a doctor who has to keep in touch with their students/clients to do it remotely.
You can also use it for some really great prank calls. They actually tout prank calling as one of Spoof Card’s top features. You have the ability to call any number within the United States, and change the caller ID number to whatever you wish. For example, if you called 1-800-Flowers you could make the caller ID say 858-589-5122.
Another great feature that Spoof Card has is that they allow you to change your voice. They actually adjust the pitch in real time as you are talking into it. I think the pitches seem a little high, especially for the dudes but who is really to say. I did a prank call that I will include in my video below that used the female voice and it was great!
Now you might be asking yourself, why can’t I get in on all this fun and start prank calling my friends too? Well folks you can! For just $20 on a major credit card you can have yourself 120 minutes of heaven! I really wish that they would accept PayPal as well but I can also understand why they currently will not accept it.
People who intend to use Spoof Card illegally, I just am going to give you a warning now. If you ever do something that could possibly get you a court date over the phone using Spoof Card. Spoof Card will cooperate with subpoenas and give the court the REAL phone numbers and your credit card numbers. So do not call people and ask them for money or threaten them. That would just ruin it for all of us!
The blizzards of December 2006 are having a huge effect on the Denver area. Sales of baby related items are through the roof and one store owner cannot find enough baby blankets. Hospitals are also seeing a large increase in planned births during the late September to early October period.
Who knew? The more people stay inside during the winter the more babies appear! Well, this is just laughable. Congratulations to all of the new parents in the general vicinity of Denver.
I have been going around looking for ways to promote my sites, as I do have quite a few of them. One of the ways I do that is by submitting my blogs to a blog directory. Alive Blog Directory is ranked in the 16,000′s on Alexa and has different options for getting your link featured, etc. If I had the cash on me I would make my link featured, but you know me always saving up! I encourage you guys to submit to Alive, as the promotion might just give you the answer to your traffic problems! Give them a try if you seem to have problems with finding visitors to your blog.
People are buying two wedding dresses now. One for the wedding, and then another for the reception. Now, I could justify that because one may get dirt, etc. But when you spend $2,700 on the main one and then $1,700 on the next wedding dress it seems a bit excessive. Now, you are expected to have two wedding dresses.
All the famous brides have them! That’s great. Oh, and Donald Trumps new wife had a 50 lb. wedding dress! Holy moly! How can someone even wear 50 pounds of clothing…that is almost physically impossible. I digress, however, I will only pay for one wedding dress. If my bride chooses a evening dress or what have you that is reasonable in price I might consider paying for that, only if she is the true one though.
I actually was planning on going to Australia this fall. However, the person whom I was set to go with was having trouble with choosing a Sydney Accommodation. They had already chosen Adelaide Hotels, and Perth Hotels. However, the trip just didn’t mesh. I was really bummed out that it didn’t.
Most of the thing was that airfare was through the roof! It was gonna cost us each $1500+. That was even purchasing far in advance! Hopefully, I will be able to make the trip someday. I really want to see Australia as I talk to a lot of folks there and they say they have some beautiful sites to see!
The people of North Minneapolis are more obese due to the fact that they have a shortage of full service grocery stores. Cub Foods is the only full service grocery store in North Minneapolis. The store has yet to turn a profit. Cub Foods sees high sales of meat but low sales of produce, which is the exact opposite of the suburbs.
Now, why do I find this bizzare? I just think it is funny that people in the drug areas are fat. They are pretty poor so you would figure they would be starving and not have enough money to eat so much that they would be fat. I digress, but am still amazed. I personally loved Cub Foods in Chicago. They are an awesome grocery store and are really fun because of their checkout setup.
That’s right! Southern Baptists are being extremely helpful by calling for a mass exodus of their children from public schools. Court decisions that banned prayer and devotional readings in the early 1960′s added to their anger after the creationism vs. evolution debate of the 1920′s. While many Southren Baptists disagree with this entirely, it is really unsure what exactly will happen.
Oh, come on! This is news? Yes, I know its a slow news day I was hoping something would explode/implode/be interesting. Hopefully the Baptists can learn that all the other Christians go to public school and end up getting a fine and dandy education…but we will save my debate on public education for another post.
A popular brand of toothpaste imported from India has dangerously high levels of bacteria Health Canada announced Friday. Neem Active Toothpaste with Calcium contains a poison that is used in antifreeze.
Many Indian grocers did not notice that Health Canada put out a warning. Hmmm. Why does this seem strange. Poisonous toothpaste and no one pays attention to the health department. Is Canada the new China or is this just a case of misinformed shopkeepers? I’ll let you decide but something seems strange. And, for goodness sakes, would you people stop mixing antifreeze and toothpaste!
Coke zero is a pretty dang awesome drink. I like it a lot better than regular coke. It just seems to pack more of a punch. In fact, now that Coke Zero has been relaunched with Coke Zero Vanilla I like it even better than I do the regular Coke Zero. However, Coke Zero is still hard to find but hopefully it will get out there more as it was only released a little while ago.
A boy who was tied to his bed by his father was arrested for attempted auto theft and vandalism. Russell Fisher, the boys father, was arrested the previous day for unlawful restraint, false imprisonment, endangering the welfare and recklessly endangering another person.
Now, how more ironic can it get. You lock up your kid because you think he is going to get into trouble. You get locked up because he got locked up. The very next day the boy gets into trouble and is locked up. That is what you call grade a stupidity right there. I hope they both get to serve their sentences together as well!
Sadly, I am going to France next year. However, if I went to England the problem would be finding London Hotels. They are so expensive with everything else over there. I would also need to find Edinburgh Hotels and Glasgow Hotels. I would need to be saving for years though. The dollar is so darn weak over there.
I know English people who came over to the United States and went to hotels and were amazed. They were astonished that their money got them so much further here. Honestly, when I go to France next year I will be so angry that they use euros. The franc used to be a great unit of currency and bought you so much more than the euro does now.
Police and Transportation Security Administration officials meet Frontier Flight 514 from Denver at it’s gate in New York after a passenger tried to open a plane door. The passenger, whose name was not availible, had to be restrained for the rest of the flight. Frontier spokesman Joe Hodas said “you need special training to open the door”.
I am curious how hard it really is to open that door. I think Mr. Hodas is bluffing because that passenger may have been an enormous security risk to all 132 other people aboard that plane. I am glad I was not on that flight or I would be extremely scared for my life. I also wonder what this passenger will be charged with. I am thinking attempted terrorism…anyone else care to guess?
This 84 year old strapping gentlemen still drives his model a he drove when he was 15 years old!
An amazing picture of the real power of the Pacific Fleet. Go Pac Fleet!
Are we really ready for a Hillary nut cracker, or even this nut cracker in general?
And an amazing view of the entire New York skyline from the top of the Empire State building, just for my loyal readers. And that is a wrap on the most bizzare and wacky pictures I have found for you today, on this the final Sunday of the month of August of the year 2007.
William C. Tinnen, 93, was arrest by Durham, N.C. police after they raided a domicile and found cocaine. Police also confiscated three firearms from the drug house. Tinnen’s bond was set at $200,000.
Now, you cannot tell me that is not a great mug for a 93 year old! Now, if I was 93 I certainly would not be dealing drugs and I wouldn’t consider a 93 year old a threat to society either. I wonder why this judge was so harsh on his bail setting.
The new show Kid Nation, which has yet to air on CBS has come under further fire about its long working hours. The New Mexico Attorney General has announced that he has reopened his investigation into the show which supposedly has had kids working for 14 and more hours a day. There are 40 kids in the show, ages 8 to 15. The experiment was to see if kids could create a community on their own with as little adult interaction as possible.
Now, who thinks that CBS will be sued by the ACLU? You cannot exploit kids, especially when the majority are under 10. I cannot believe CBS actually pulled this show off, it is just taking it over the line of common sense. I know there are camps for this, but most of those are for kids who are teenagers, who have more knowledge and possibly experience, not 9 year olds!
Gun prices in the United Kingdom are staggeringly low. The average price for a sawed off shotgun is now only $100 USD and you can get a handgun for $300. Crimes involving handguns are up almost 50%, even though handguns were banned in the U.K. ten years ago. Victims from these attacks are getting younger as well, with the average age of gun crimes plummeting from 24 to 19 in London between 2004-2006.
Now, who could have predictided banning something would make it worse. Also, why does the U.K. need to ban handguns other than this problem. They did have a massacre but it did not cause a great killing, not to be insensitive. However, the United States did not ban airplanes after 9/11 or AK-47′s after Columbine. Those are all horrible tragedys but the need does not exsist, your only going to make it worse in the U.K!
I was watching National Geographic the other day and saw a commercial about the Alzheimer’s Memory Walk. It was really well done and after reading around through a couple of other blogs, I got really motivated to blog about the Memory Walk. My grandfather had Alzheimer’s and it is a wretched disease that made him into a person that no one deserves to be. He endured quite a bit of suffering before passing away after a few years later. Alzheimer’s made him erratic and alienated him from all of his friends, and made his family very frustrated in dealing with him.
As everyone knows, I am love giving to charity. Therefore, I wanted to sponsor my local team in the Memory Walk. Sadly, they only accept credit cards online. I then found the team captain and the phone number and have placed a call in to him. I hope they do call me back, because I would give them a very generous donation to beat this awful and wicked disease.
If you have the time, consider becoming a team captain. Sadly, I am already committed. But you can do it, I know you can! So why not become a Team Captain in the 2007
Old men everywhere are going to finally have nothing to say to urban youth. No more cackles from them about pulling up the baggy pants and to stand up straight, because Atlanta is considering banning baggy pants that may show underwear. This is not just for the guys either, it’s for the women too! They will not be able to show a thong line either! Finally Justice! Oh wait…sorry. The penalty for having baggy pants or a thong line showing? A nominal fee of some kind to be named later. Unless you’re a celebrity, then you can have 9 cases of showing baggy pants and you’ll just get community service or a slap on the wrist and a wagging finger from Ned Flanders. This of course has to be the funniest proposal I’ve seen in a long time. Hip Hop stars, Skateboarders, punk kids, goth kids, ravers, freaks, and all sorts of people are going to be forced to pull up their pants and wear a belt. Take that Hotlanta!
Once a year there is a special day at Disneyland. Goth day! That’s right the happiest place on earth invites all the saddest kids from all over Southern California to come and see if the fabulous world of Disney can’t seem to cheer them up. What ends up happening is the sad kids pose a little smile here and there, but only when no one is looking. Not only do they all converge there, they end up wearing all black and sweating to death in the hot Orange County sun.
Not really laughing yet? What about photos? What about the long line at the Haunted Mansion? Oh yeah, you know that’s the only ride garnering attention from these sad…sad…kids.
John Elway, the all-star quarterback of the Denver Bronco’s is now going to be the QB coach of a High School team. That’s right, he’s left the cozy desk job of retirement and sports autographs to teach his youngster (who is in his senior year) how to be a pro in the high school game. John Elway of course had one great career, and had he not been doing anything else, I’m sure he could’ve found something better to do with his time. Sadly, his paycheck was not stated in the news post. But one source stated that he’ll receive no special treatment, and will receive the starting minimum required salary for the position.
Elvis’s handgun was stolen from a museum. That’s right, people still go to museum’s, and yes it is Elvis Presley not Elvis Costello. It happened as fans descended upon the king’s home town to mark the 30th anniversary of his death, only to be saddened to hear that the gun has been swiped. If you see a handgun at a pawn shop with residue from bacon and mayo, you might have the king’s pistol in your sights.
As if weird names and products weren’t sad enough. There’s a cookie coming from Japan that just doesn’t know what’s up. It’s F-Cup cookies. That’s right…F-Cup Cookies. They are neither cups nor are they real cookies. They appear to be some sort of wafer like substance, or something. Cookies have a weird way of being non threatening, but these will have some conservative parents appalled. I for one am thinking the apocalypse is upon us! Ok, maybe not, but the Japanese should consider what they are selling, especially when the western world isn’t going to be thrilled at the site of such a thing…oh and if you think I’m just making things complicated, look at the box that they come in….oh yeah…something is definitely awry on this one.
Apparently Porn is a big national issue for the Federal Agents assigned to this next task. They are to gather the names,stage names,maiden names, and photos of all known porn stars in the United States currently performing in any movies that are considered “x” rated. This of course is going to protect our freedoms somehow right? Not really. It’s just going to make sure that the adult industry cooperates with some new laws set to promote decency in a world that is not decent. Regulating the adult industry has been something that the right has been trying to do in a long time…but what makes this absurd is that they want so much information. No more can one hide behind a stage name…plus photos? Action shots? Ridiculous.
“The identity of every performer is critical to determining and ensuring that no performer is a minor..”
Because every performer looks like a kid. There’s a big difference between little suzy out there and…well…this monster:
Over 600 people posed naked on a Alpine glacier. The participants endured the hardship of standing naked in 50 degree temperatures. The statement was to show some sort of connection between the melting glacier and human bodies.
I apologize for the lack of good photos for this story, but I do have a sense of decency. I can’t believe people would stand naked on a glacier of all places, but then again people will do just about anything.
While the rest of us are barley surviving in Michigan, with very few new jobs. It is amazing at all the layoffs the state is making, and yet you wonder what we are spending our tax revenue on? How about a Cadillac police car that doesn’t look like it even has a back seat!
How can this better Michigan? Will the car be given donations or something? Are we going to sell it for the fun of it? Michigan, your taxpayers just footed the bill for a 100,000 police car! And it is NOT even functional!
The bathroom vanities in our hallway bath upstairs are rather old and could use updating. However, when we went into the Kitchen and Bath store I was awestruck at how much it costs to replace just a few cabinets. I imagine most of it is in the installation, but still $7,500…I think I am going to look at a few more places before I decide where exactly I am going to purchase them.
I did look at Century furniture when we were picking out the furniture at the furniture store, but I though this just is not for me. We ended up going with a shaker and Amish sort of collection that are beautiful oak. The headboard is just gorgeous and for the price is the best value you could ask for. However, finishing cost a bundle and then you have to add on a little bit for delivery so they get you back for it after a while. We still have not technically order the pieces yet, but we will be going back and ordering them as soon as I can find the time, which could be any day now.
While I do not exactly live on a golf resort, I live near a Ski Hill/Golf Course. I am close enough that their is snow from the Ski Hill that blows down into my yard. I do not get any golf balls in my yard, thank goodness. However, I do walk the cart paths and find golf balls from time to time. One of the golf balls I found a few days ago happens to be a Titleist golf ball. It is brand new and in pretty good condition. I will probably be able to sell it for .50 to .75. Some of the junkier ones go for .25 and the worst I just use for various projects. Gotta love being near the golf course though, thats if you play golf, which so isn’t me.
Another find at Target today was Makeup Mirrors. I never even knew there was such a thing. I always thought women just used their makeup, and were done with it. However, I cannot believe some of the time people spend on putting up makeup and changing their looks it is nuts! Congratulations to the millions of women out there, for putting on makeup every day. It has to be quite the ordeal for you.
The local Costco has a beautiful copper outdoor fireplace that will make your neighbors scream with envy. I was just walking through, like usual, on my way to get some pita chips. It was meticulous to detail and was at a reasonable price, unlike Home Depot and Lowe’s. I probably will not be buying it this year, just due to the fact that summer is ending so soon and I hate being outside at night because of all the bugs, but it might be a good idea for next year!
You know the last time I was in TN(yes, I don’t want to have to keep spelling it), was probably about 5 years ago. It is a beautiful state, very mountainous and such. I am thinking about vacationing there again sometime soon. Probably within two to three years. One idea that came to mind was a Pigeon Forge cabin rental. You can stay in a really nice area with a cabin all to your own. I am thinking this might be the perfect vacation for me, doing nothing in the middle of the wilderness. But yet, still close enough to go to a Walmart for groceries.
I have a 1992 Honda Accord that still runs, has 237,000 miles on it and has just a few rust spots. The sad thing is that when I went to run it the other day, it had no air conditioning. I think the problem may be the cooling fluid or something similar. After all, this is an old car and Auto air conditioning has come a long way.
I need to make an appointment for the Honda guys to look at it. I really like Honda, but I am horrible at doing anything mechanical as I have talked about previously, so hopefully they can fix it for a nominal fee. I just hope that it isn’t going to cost me more than the car is worth.
Salle Mae is one of the nations largest student loan consolidation companies. They have a very large amount of loans, including those of a friend of mine. He recently called to arrange payment on his student loans, and was greeted by “Habib” from “Arizona”. They managed to get everything ironed out just fine, but all in all, I like my customer support people from California or New York much better than “Arizona”.
As my skin is beautiful(far from it), I will never in my lifetime need skinceuticals. I am not a woman, so therefore, I do not need makeup. That is the fact of the matter plain and simple. However, I know a lot of women that refuse to wear makeup because of their “inner beauty”, I applaud them for being frugal!
I was just thinking about the post where I said I would by Breezie cookware. Hmm, as I am recalling that offer berndes cookware looks pretty good. But first off, she will have to pay 99% of the costs and I will have to pay 1%. I will also pay applicable shipping charges. Sounds like a good deal to you? I think its a darn good deal compared to me doing absolutely nothing! Ahhh, I love being lazy.
As I may or may have not blogged about in June, my great grandmother died at age 91. She was a wonderful lady, but it was simply her time to pass. However, she left quite a bit of “stuff” behind and I was sort of annoyed that we had just moved her when she became very ill and slipped away.
However, when we were cleaning out her apartment at the assisted living facility, we found a couple of gold bracelets. Now, we were not sure if they were real gold, gold plated or what have you, but we were very excited at the time. Seems kind of ironic that we still have not gotten them looked at. We also found some beautiful pearls, not sure if they are real either. Maybe I will get around to taking them to a jeweler, someday.